[inforoots] [List4guides] IMP history adjunct to Dick's email note

[Barrie Robinson]

Anyone out there in an entrepreneurial software writing mode ???

Does anyone remember Dr Chris Newport from ARPnet days



At 03:58 PM 5/6/2008, you wrote:
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>Hi, Eugene!
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>Long time no see!!!
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>I remember back in 65,66 and 68,69, and again in 71 getting
>messages on Teletype machines that looked exactly like email.
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>Of course, the ASCII was the same, but only the 71 events
>were actually messages that were possibly going on what
>eventually became the Internet.
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>Michael S. Hart
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>On Mon, 5 May 2008, Miya, Eugene wrote:
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>>1) My attempt while traveling to respond to Dick G. good note failed due to
>>changes in the NASA email system (talk about ironic) and the CHM listserv.
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>>2) Email was NOT one of the earliest applications on the ARPAnet.  You were
>>not on the ARPAnet for email, so it is important to keep this in mind.  FTP
>>and telnet were the first apps.  They have changed very little, since they
>>started.  Some of the few changes were to accommodate hierarchical file
>>systems to "change directory" and other similar directory status commands.
>>Email came later but was not available to every one for administrative and
>>technical reasons.  It later came what we regard as "the" killer app. The
>>IMP allowed diverse vendor hardware; ARPAnet was a somewhat more
>>heterogeneous network than would have other been otherwise vendor or
>>institutionally possible.  A pretty good reference for the net in that
>>period is Katie Hafner's Where Wizards Stay Up Late; watch for her NY Times
>>article about the CHM.
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>>3) The first protocol was NCP, Network Control Protocol/Program.  NCP
>>differs quite a bit and had quite a few limitations compared to TCP/IP.  You
>>did not have to know about the IMP, your host computer managed the IMP as a
>>front-end.  It was packet switched with limited store-and-forward sliding
>>windows.
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>>4) Jake ran the NIC (Network Information Center) at SRI: Jake knew all.
>>Very few people knew Jake was female (Elizabeth).  Get to know Jake, she is
>>one of the most useful references the CHM has to offer.
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>>5) 56.6 Kb/s was good.  While experiments in packet voice, crude graphics
>>(no color, only calligraphic), and other real time experiments took place in
>>the early 1970s, the rest of the net functioned without a lot of knowledge.
>>It was FTP, telnet, and email.
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>>6) You would not believe how hostile some of the ARPAnet's opponents were.
>>Not to this day at least.  They still exist, but they are much more quiet.
>>I can answer a few more docent level questions, but the real experts are
>>still out there (I can point you guys to the still living guys, many in
>>Katie's book).
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Barrie

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